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Remember Me? What's New? Results 1 to 13 of Thread: "Around the Horn" by Walt Weiskopf. Thread Tools Show Printable Version. Is it a good resource? I'm inclined to think it is and I like the way it is organized but I'm not an expert and am wary of learning from an unorthodox source.

He substitutes some color tones in some of his scales instead of what would usually be taught in a theory class. Is that a big deal or no? Sponsored Links Remove Advertisements. Re: "Around the Horn" by Walt Weiskopf. Can some of the brilliant musical teaching minds out there give me some input on using this book as my primary workout for practicing? Go for The Tone , g "When you are doing well, don't forget to do good. As a Veteran for Peace, I am already against the next war.

It's a great workout and a fantastic method for learning the modes. He doesn't substitute anything in the scales. He is actually outlining all 7 modes of each scale, so you do get a lot of different colors. He does deviate from standard arpeggiation 1,3,5,7 and emphasizes the particular color note of whatever mode he is in. For example, on Lydian his arpeggio is 1,3, 4,7. This is just another way of teaching the color of each mode.

Whether Walt's exact version of the arpeggio will prove useful in your playing is up to your style and aesthetic, but knowledge of the modes, which is the object of the book along with technical facility, will do wonders for your playing. Get it on Amazon or get it as a digital Ebook. I was hoping to hear it was a good resource.

I really like it. Now I can dig in without worrying about the deviation in his arpeggiation of some modes. Wasn't sure if that was breaking the rules before having learned them if you know what I mean. I would dig in and soak it up. I don't find myself using his arpeggiation in my playing, but practicing the modes and arpeggios did make a big difference in my facility both on the horn and in improvisation.

I can't say I understand the usefulness of it. Especially the arpeggios with different notes in them. I tried working out of it a few times but never understood the application to real life playing so I always gave up on it.

Maybe I need to take another look at it. I would love to see a few video lessons from Walt on how to use the book and apply it Re: "Around the Horn" by Walt Weiskopf I think the other thing that put me off from the book is that without application it's hard to hear or imagine the melodic application of some of the arpeggios Re: "Around the Horn" by Walt Weiskopf My point is that the melodic application of the arpeggios is only an afterthought in my perception, however the etudes at the back of the book all apply the arpeggios in a melodic fashion.

I think the main point is technical facility and complete digestion of all modes of major, harmonic, and melodic minor. Those modes are the building blocks of melody, and in that way are an important foundation to improvisation. The alternate notes in the arpeggios are much less melodic than they are an accentuation of the unique color in the mode.

It's a learning tool to help quickly define the mode, not primarily a melodic tool as far as I can tell, or as far as Walt ever explained it to me. I also have "Around the Horn" and have had the same experience that Steve mentions; I'll use the book a bit and move away from it because it seems hard to apply. Per Ben's comment, I'll look at the etudes in the back of the book for guidance in the application. Let your credo be this: Let the lie come into the world, let it even triumph.

But not through me. Originally Posted by Nefertiti. My wife, whose ears I trust, said that my sound is much fuller, richer, more powerful and resonant on this set up. Originally Posted by BenBrittonJazz. I studied with Walt Weiskopf in college, and worked out of Around the Horn. I think you are better to attack scales and patterns and theory by doing it in a tune or song.

So you understand not only the scale or chord but how it functions in the whole picture. Also, its less useful to learn to drive a car if you don't know when to get in or get out if that makes sense.? It seemed like a cool book when I bought it but in the last year or so Its all been tune oriented for me. So learn the head, memorize the changes and then work on different techniques within the tune.

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Around the Horn

From the esteemed author of Intervalic Improvisation: The Modern Sound , this book is the most thorough and exhaustive study of scales and arpeggios ever assembled. Included are 21 scales and arpeggios every jazz musician needs to know based on the Major, Melodic Minor, and Harmonic Minor modes. Also included are specially-designed etudes to open your ears and increase your modal awareness. This book will allow any instrumentalist to gain facility and a solid understanding of modes, how they work, and how to best use them in practice and performance. By Walt Weiskopf and Ramon Ricker.


Around the Horn: 21 Modal Scales and Arpeggios Every Jazz Musician Needs to Know

Beyond the Horn. Walt Weiskopf , Ed Rosenberg. Gain seemingly impossible facility beyond the horn's previously-considered limits. This is a huge, page spiral-bound book with enough material to keep the serious student busy for many months.

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